Guest dimmache Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 La capacitiv nu ganditi in faza ci in numar de semialternante. Daca vreti factor de umplere 50% atunci o semialternanta da una nu la comanda triacului/tiristorului...................................................................... Daca folositi un al doilea element de comanda inseriat cu un condensator, in paralel pe cel principal, realizati un rezistor suplimentar care se adauga celui din becoled si va permite controlul luminozitatii la factor de umplere mic cand ledurile palpaie vizibil. Trag eu concluzia c? trebuie minim 2 triace ( nu triacuri sau triaci am cautat Link to comment
UDAR Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Nu ?tiu dac? mie Edited October 24, 2016 by UDAR Link to comment
Guest dimmache Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Sursa buck (step down) ar fi o treaba de?teapt?, dar nu cred sa exista asa ceva Edited October 24, 2016 by dimmache Link to comment
UDAR Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Sursa buck (step down) ar fi o treaba de?teapt?, dar nu cred sa exista asa ceva Link to comment
XAN77 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) ?i eu cred c? au destul de multe, uite Hepol are a?a ceva : Edited October 24, 2016 by XAN77 Link to comment
Guest dimmache Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Buck de la 220 de?i nu se vede ce scrie pe integrat. 1R80 pare a fi o citire de curent. 2.7mH e pentru cobor Edited October 24, 2016 by dimmache Link to comment
Guest Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Citat: Teoretic ar merge atacat Link to comment
Guest dimmache Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Ce becuri au astfel de buck Link to comment
mirceacra Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Am desfacut un dimmer pentru becuri led care chiar functioneaza cu becuri led dimabile foarte bine, in interior are un montaj cu un pic 12f675 si o parte de "forta" cu doua feturi de tip 5r250p Atasez cateva imagini : Mentioneza ca aprinderea si stingerea se fac prin apasarea scurta a butonului iar dimarea prin apasarea lunga a acestuia Link to comment
Guest dimmache Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) Ar fi frumos un osciloscop pe bec. Daca se poate si sonda pentru curent si pentru tensiune, dar macar tensiune. Daca nu aveti osciloscop puteti merge cu dimmerul si becul la cineva care are. Frecventa este suficiente de joasa sa mearga orice osciloscop. Dar poate nu merita atata timp cat gasim un osciloscop. Edited October 25, 2016 by dimmache Link to comment
mirceacra Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Am osciloscop ?i voi posta formele de unda Link to comment
Guest dimmache Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Asteptat cu interes.......! Am desfacut un dimmer pentru becuri led care chiar functioneaza cu becuri led dimabile foarte bine, in interior are un montaj cu un pic 12f675 si o parte de "forta" cu doua feturi de tip 5r250p Aici este problema. De asta am fost interesat. De ce cineva ar folosi FET-uri in loc de triac ? Triacul are avantajul ca lucreaza aprins/stins. Caderea de tensiune pe el este minima si deci nu se incinge. La FET e dificil. Daca nu e atacat corect se incalzeste. Am cautat scheme de dimmer cu FET-- Elliott care explica foarte clar http://sound.whsites.net/lamps/dimmers.html NOTE CAREFULLY: It is extremely important that the reader understands that dimmable electronic lamps (both CFL and LED) are commonly claimed to be compatible with leading and trailing edge dimmers. With very few exceptions, this is not true! Almost all electronic lamps draw a very high peak current when connected to TRIAC (leading edge) dimmers, because the rise-time of the mains input is incredibly fast.This places enormous stress on the dimmer itself, and more importantly on the lamp's electronics. Despite makers' claims, the lamp will almost certainly not survive the abuse for very long, so the lamp life is reduced - possibly dramatically. A trailing edge (or universal) dimmer does not subject the lamp to a fast rising waveform, so doesn't cause excessively high peak current to be drawn. Rog pe UDAR sa spuna ce este cu -ariciul- asta. Noi dam un PWM care urmareste ca amplitudinea. Nu mi se pare corect. Daca ai o sursa ca asta sa zicem-- http://www.homemade-circuits.com/2011/12/how-to-calculate-and-deduce-current-and.html Cu cat frecventa devine si mai mare prin condensatorul ala va trece si mai usor. Rise and fall edge sunt suficiente cat sa incarce si sa descarce condensatorul C1 din link de mai sus. In plus nu stim daca diodele alea care sigur sunt 1N4007 rezista acei frecvente, deoarece au si el o capacitata si se pot incalzi si vor face poc. http://www.instructables.com/id/AC-Arduino-dimming-circuit/ Edited October 28, 2016 by dimmache Link to comment
Guest dimmache Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) http://tahmidmc.blogspot.ro/2012_11_01_archive.html Multumesc, Ultimul spune ca alimenteaza aprata de 110V alternativ de la 220V alternativ prin metoda asta-- Here is the prototype at work (generating an output voltage of 115VAC from 230VAC input): Am putea concepe un montaj care citeste unghiul de faza si si in functie de el ataca corect un CFL sau bec cu LED Edited October 28, 2016 by dimmache Link to comment
mirceacra Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Cred ca mi am dat seaama, dimmerele pentru becoleduri func?ioneaz? ca Dimerele universale din articolul lui eliot sau de tip trailing edge Link to comment
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